From: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#1]
31 Mar 2012
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Hax, Bux, Laz, Dwyane et. al.
Going to a gun show tomorrow and looking for a good self-defense carry gun. Want something that is reliable and would not require any form of holster. Since MD has restrictive carry laws, this would not be something I'd normally carry, but would take if family camping or hiking in remote areas. Something that my wife would not notice, since she is anti-gun and freaks out whenever I even mention guns.
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From: Gun Monkey (BUXBANDIT) [#2]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#1] 31 Mar 2012
Since size matters, both the Kahr P380 or the Ruger LCP would fit your criteria, with the Ruger being about half the price in .380 caliber
http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-P380.asp
http://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/index.html
In 9mm, perhaps the Kahr CM9, but it's a little larger
http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-CM9.asp
With either I'd suggest a front pocket holster to eliminate the imprint, and protect both the pistol and your trousers. There are lot's of choices out there
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From: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#3]
31 Mar 2012
To: Gun Monkey (BUXBANDIT) [#2] 31 Mar 2012
Want something that's really pocket carry; no holsterReply
From: Gun Monkey (BUXBANDIT) [#4]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#3] 31 Mar 2012
They are pocket rockets, Jaime.
I merely suggested a holster to fit in your pocket and make the gun less noticeable
Good luck with whatever you choose
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From: WIZ (WIZOFEYEZ) [#5]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#1] 31 Mar 2012
Ruger LCP, Sig P238.
These are small .380 "pocket" pistols with several good safety features. I have a small soft pocket holster that these fit very well, but you can just carry them in a pocket if you so desire. All ammo companies make a personal defense round that makes these small guns pretty efficient in a self defense situation. They would take care of a snake, a small bear, or especially a two legged snake.
There are many other options and certainly bigger calibers, but these little pistols are much better than a big baseball bat should you ever, heaven forbid, need one.
The Sig is my favorite, but the LCP does the same job and is about 1/2 the price.
Enjoy the show (wizard) ,
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From: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#6]
31 Mar 2012
To: Gun Monkey (BUXBANDIT) [#4] 31 Mar 2012
OK, thanks.
Would you have any reservations about buying used?
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From: Gun Monkey (BUXBANDIT) [#7]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#6] 31 Mar 2012
None at all.
I buy and sell used all the time.
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From: WIZ (WIZOFEYEZ) [#8]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#3] 31 Mar 2012
The "holsters" Bux and I refer to are akin to a ladies slip in glasses case. Mine is nylon with small rubber band like strips embedded on the outside for pocket retention. I think it was $6.00, I'd sure give one a try, just to keep it in the drawer, backpack or whatever laying around the house.Reply
From: P21 (PHEEEL21) [#9]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#1] 31 Mar 2012
Take a serious look at the Springfield XDM line. They have several 9mm, .40 and .45acp models that are compact. They are all reasonably priced. I have two of them a 9mm and a .45 and love them. Great firearms.Reply
From: TiStick [#10]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#1] 31 Mar 2012
I have a ruger lcp with this holster. Doesnt show much in your pocket. http://www.lefthandholster.com/Pocket_Holster.phpReply
From: Charlie (CHARLIED6) [#11]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#1] 31 Mar 2012
From your post, it sounds like you are not really intending to become a handgun aficionado who practices regularly, field strips the gun regularly, pays close attention to the workings and operation and controls of the gun regularly, etc.
Rather, it sounds like you're looking for something that you can put in the drawer and completely forget about for 6 to 12 months at a time and then take it out on rare occasions when you feel the need and have it work reliably without any great amount of skill or familiarization required. In other words, something that you can just pick up and pull the trigger and count on it to go BANG shot after shot until it's empty.
If this is your situation, then you can't beat a small revolver, IMO. There are plenty of .38 Special snubbies that will fill the bill.
Charlie
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From: COME_AND_TAKE_IT! (HAX) [#12]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#1] 31 Mar 2012
Glock 19 and don't look back.
Hax
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From: Gun Monkey (BUXBANDIT) [#13]
31 Mar 2012
To: COME_AND_TAKE_IT! (HAX) [#12] 31 Mar 2012
Too big for what he wantsReply
From: COME_AND_TAKE_IT! (HAX) [#14]
31 Mar 2012
To: Gun Monkey (BUXBANDIT) [#13] 31 Mar 2012
Glock 26 then.
Hax
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From: Tom (TOM0956) [#15]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#1] 31 Mar 2012
Charlie makes a real good point in Post 11. Semi-autos are relatively high maintenance.Reply
From: Killindar [#16]
31 Mar 2012
To: Charlie (CHARLIED6) [#11] 31 Mar 2012
I'd agree with your suggestion for a .38 sub. Ruger even makes a version of their LCP as an LCR
http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/index.htmlReply
From: Gun Monkey (BUXBANDIT) [#17]
31 Mar 2012
To: COME_AND_TAKE_IT! (HAX) [#14] 2 Apr 2012
double stack mag ins't very concealable in a pocket.
Read his initial post.
Recommendations for a wheel gun also don't fit the criteria.
His best bet is the LCP IMHO
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From: Chili Pepper (BBV13) [#18]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#1] 31 Mar 2012
Hammerless snub nose 38 that can handle +p ammo. Knockdown power that will not get hung on you pants when you pull it out. I don't think any of the black auto pocket guns are safe. If you have one in the chamber and get the trigger hung up on keys or anything you may just shoot yourself with it while getting it out of your pocket.
Bryan
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From: OnePuttLarry [#19]
31 Mar 2012
To: Hammer Dog (JAIME59) [#1] 1 Apr 2012
Browning makes a beautiful .25 ca auto...small, fits into pocket easily.
Although, don't plan on bringing down a grizzly!
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EDITED: 31 Mar 2012 by ONEPUTTLARRY
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From: My bag is all Ping now! (BUICKBOY) [#20]
31 Mar 2012
To: Charlie (CHARLIED6) [#11] 31 Mar 2012
I tend to agree with Charlie. There are many 38 cal revolvers on the market. Simple to operate and maintain. Many companies to shoose from. If you are new to guns, take some basic level of training and practice at least a few times a year.Reply
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